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ok i just want to know your thoughts about whos stronger of the two.. i would say the old Whitebeard is stronger than shanks, because he almost murdered akainu even when he was wounded and got stabbed and half of his face was almost gone. he almost killed blackbeard too.. so i wonder if shanks could do that too. his left arm isnt an excuse because its part of the story, Whitebeards head wasnt an excuse too. i just want to know your opinions guys..