Main antagonist of Post-War arc?[]
Can someone explain to me the logic behind this? Mandon (talk) 07:38, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
Well, he can be considered an antagonist, but i think bluejam is the main one. We should change this to secondary.Vaztalk 08:09,2/3/2014
I don't think this arc actually has a main antagonist. Staw-Hat Luffy Talk 10:48, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, Outlook and Bluejam in the end pulled roughly the same amount of crap against the kids in that arc.DancePowderer Talk 15:27, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
Well.. he's one of the main antagonists of the flashback, I'd say. He is the mastermind for most of the problems for Sabo, Ace, and Luffy, but on the other hand, Bluejam caused an equal amount, since he was involved before Outlook got him involved...
I'd say they're both both equally the main antagonists.. but I don't think there can be two.
@Staw, the flashback does, but not the present time stuff. Galaxy 9000 01:19, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
As the guy who made the edit, I did it because he hired Bluejam to kill Luffy's and Ace, he was also a huge problem for everyone, being a noble. He is the mastermind, and thus, the main antagonist.
Nobody700 01:38, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
Why does an arc really need a "main" antagonist? Maybe he's an antagonist, but there were plenty of enemies in this arc. If anything, the World Noble that killed Sabo is the main antagonist. uknownada Talk 01:46, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
The guy's a douche for a dad, but he can't be the "main". Jalmack almost killed Sabo, but he's no "main" antagonist. I think the Goa Kingdom itself is the "main", due to being so rotten in politics and integrity. Yata Talk to me 02:18, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
On the pages of Bluejam and Outlook we should just say "one of the main antagonists". Due to the structure of the arc it's hard to say who the main antagonist is, since Luffy doesn't fight anyone like he normally does. JustSomeDude... Talk | 02:31, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
1. I agree with just some dude.
2. Yata, while that is true, one could easily say Outlook is the perfect face for the group, and he did cause most of the problem for our heroes, and helped with a lot. So, while I defend it, I understand why people don't. I might not, in another situation similar to this. I just see him as one.
Nobody700 02:34, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
How about "...and one of the principal antagonists..."? Yata Talk to me 03:23, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
i agree with JSD. and Yata "main" sounds better than principal IMO — LG (t • c) 12:28, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
The question is whether Outlook is "main", as Bluejam and the rest of Goa is potentially the same as corrupted and evil. Yata Talk to me 01:00, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
There's no article for "the rest of Goa" though. I just changed it to "One of the main antags" for both their pages. Calling this discussion closed. JustSomeDude... Talk | 02:25, February 11, 2014 (UTC)